OneClass anyone?

[DavidFhu]

Sorry if I post it this message at the wrong location.

Anyone here use OneClass before? I like to have some feedback and guide. Thanks.

[davidlloyd]

I'veonly seen a demo of One Class. When I taught we used Net Ops. One Class looks a lot easier, responds more quickly and takes up less memory.

[DavidFhu]

Is Promethean going to give it a go for OneClass?

I hear very little about and really don't know what to expect.

What would you recommend? What is the different between OneClass and NetOp? What is the benefit between the 2 different product?:confused:

[saha]

Hi David,
I have used OneClass for a few hours. We are currently piloting it at our school. In less than 2 weeks we will be using it in a live environment with students in the classroom.
I have not done any comparing of Oneclass with other like tools.
OneClass is certainly a good product and is a must have tool to manage a classroom with 1:1 student:laptop ratio. Without OneClass , there is room for a lot of loss of productivity.
Also with Oneclass you get the integrated feeling or a wraparound Promethean solution.

Also if you are already a Promethean customer, the cost of ownership of OneClass is very attractive compared to other solutions.

[kam]

We wanted to try a demo of it against the other solutions we are having for our labs, but one wasn't available at that time. We were told to just download a trial of Lanschool as it's the actual program. We like it, but I'd like to know if there are any "Activenhancements" to Oneclass to differentiate.

[saha]

Not sure of "activenhancement" but already one feature that we found unique and useful with Oneclass that we cant get with Netops or other similar software.

Our school system ( and possible other public schools too), did not like the "stealth feature" which is monitoring or controlling a PC in stealth mode. They want to monitor and control student laptop but not in stealth mode. They want the student to know that they are being monitored/controlled.
With Oneclass you can turn the stealth mode off. So far I know of no other similar product where the stealth mode could be turned off. This was the distinguishing factor for us.
As I use this more, I will let you know more of my experience.

[markrobinson]

There are a host of benefits that OneClass has over the competition...

I am a biased commentator - but "best of breed" was key in working with Lanschool on creating this...


Far, far better network performance than any other competitor product - that means less lag when more PCs are added.
Truly secure - some competitor software can be stopped by ALT/CTRL/DEL or even deleted by the user! - If any of this is attempted with OneClass it will simply restart itself
Only the teacher machine needs the license - the client can be freely distributed - others require the client to be installed and managed on each student PC... This makes for very rapid setup - and every student could be set up ready to connect - so this is great if it is older students with 1:1 laptops who are roaming, etc.
Real Internet Block - some just block Internet Explorer or other nominated applications - OneClass blocks ALL internet activity - preventing students creating or using other web applications to get out.
A highlighter pen - so you can scribble on work...
And a Promethean Man logo... always important...

[saha]

Hi Mark,

How do we handle the following scenario for One Class?

" I teach 5 periods. When Period #1 student come to my room I want to monitor and control only Period #1 students. The bell rings and Period #2 students come in. Now I want to disengage from Period #1 students and want to connect and control only Period #2 students. Bear in mind that Period#1 students are still in the range of my wireless network, but they have gone to another class and want to be controlled and monitored by a different teacher".

Netops has a way to create classes specifically for this purpose. One Class works on the concept of different channels. I dont recall the ability to group or create classes in Oneclass.

Could you enlighten me on this?
As always, thanks.

[markrobinson]

I will have to confirm - but I believe you can group channels with the latest version.

[markrobinson]

There are 16,000 channels .. so you could also have a channel per session

[saha]

Thanks Mark.
There is almost no document on this topic either on OneClass brochure or Lan School brochure.

LanSchool does mention something about "Enterprise class access point". Is this idea ported over to OneClass ??

Netops and Netschool have the idea of Enterprise class access points as way to separate and segment groups of users.

So in other words if there are 100 unique class periods in a school then 100 different access points would be created on a central server. The access points would be named like these:
Saha_period1
Garrison_period5

So when students come to class they would logon to the appropriate access point and all would be good.

[DavidFhu]

Hello, Saha.

Do you mean that we will enough further discount, if we were a Promethean customer?

It will sure good news to me. :)

Hi David,
Also if you are already a Promethean customer, the cost of ownership of OneClass is very attractive compared to other solutions.

[DavidFhu]

I am read LanSchool Website and notice that LanSchool mention why they are the best solution on the market which wonder does Promethean OneClass will able to match.

Includes free online training (http://www.lanschool.com/training.html)
Backed up by an unbeatable support policy (http://www.lanschool.com/downloads/LSSupportPolicy.pdf)
Proven over 20 years and tens of thousands of customers (http://www.lanschool.com/customers.html)I am interested in their free online training and unbeatable support policy.

Any comment on this?

We wanted to try a demo of it against the other solutions we are having for our labs, but one wasn't available at that time. We were told to just download a trial of Lanschool as it's the actual program. We like it, but I'd like to know if there are any "Activenhancements" to Oneclass to differentiate.

[DavidFhu]

To my surprise, LanSchool and Promethean OneClase look 100% the same.

Am I right to say that it is OEM from LanSchool? Since it is the same, what are the price we are looking at? lol...

[DavidFhu]

Mark.

I notice that we can change 256 channel for OneClase. How do you sum up to have 16,000 channel?

Since Saha had rasie the question, it concern me too. Normal we have 30 classes running at the same time in the school and 40 to 50 teachers are teaching or working at their station. Since the OneClass software is running once the system bootup. How can we control that without hurting the head?

There are 16,000 channels .. so you could also have a channel per session

[saha]

Hi David,
Yes it appears that Promethean OneClass is an OEM from Lanschool.

There are two ways to install Oneclass.

If your environment is like mine ( which is what it seems), then you need to install the "One to One" teacher install option and not the general setup.exe.

Once you do this version of the install, you can set the channel to any number you want( potentially any number uptil 16,000). Now you are in a position to install the one-to-one student version on selected student machines. At the end of this process, you can save the setup as a classlist ( for example Period1).

Repeat this process for other classes. Keep the channel the same.
So you see, using the install this way, you can have one dedicated channel for each teacher. The teacher now has to just select the correct class list they want to monitor each period.

Like other products in this category, in the wireless environment it is recommended that you use a enterprise class server access point.

[DavidFhu]

Hi, Saha.

Does OneClass offer that? Or do you mean LANSchool?

...Like other products in this category, in the wireless environment it is recommended that you use a enterprise class server access point.

[hayla99]

I have a couple of questions about this. If the teacher uses channel 1 for example, and you put 50 kids on channel 1 for two classes, 25 each class. If you show the teachers computer on your students computers wouldn't it show on all 50 computers?

Second question. If another teacher wants to use One Class and chooses channel 2. The student computers can't have more then one channel it connects to. Not without going through a "reinstall" to change the channel. How would you go about this?


Repeat this process for other classes. Keep the channel the same.
So you see, using the install this way, you can have one dedicated channel for each teacher. The teacher now has to just select the correct class list they want to monitor each period.

Like other products in this category, in the wireless environment it is recommended that you use a enterprise class server access point.

[saha]

You want to choose a unique channel for each class.
Say you have 5 classes. Assign channel 1 for class 1 , channel 2 for class 2, etc.

On the student computer, students can right click the one class icon and change it to the desired channel. As easy as that.
To avoid monitoring screens that are not in your class currently, a good idea is to change to unique channels that can change everyday.

For example, the teacher could decide that they want to monitor only channel 98 today.
So the teacher sets his/her laptop to channel 98.
when students come to class, tell students to tune to channel 98.
Hope this helps